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Post by redd on Apr 18, 2006 12:19:26 GMT -6
Oh yeah, back on-topic: I've been reading the nice, short ones ^_^;; I like them, they're good. Especially seeing as I'm busy and have no time to read (except revision >.> because I can't revise without reading >.>) Anyways, good work, keep it up!
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Post by Matthias on Apr 18, 2006 19:24:19 GMT -6
Heath just always seems to die when I use him. I like him well enough as a character, and have actually tried.
ontopic: I take it mine are too long to be read by the uber-busy Flyssa. I see how it is.
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 19, 2006 1:48:33 GMT -6
Well Heath maybe underleveled, but Miledy starts well enough, and what i they are slow? They are tanks, at least they can take a hit unlike the Pegasus Knights.
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Post by redd on Apr 19, 2006 11:08:40 GMT -6
Heath just always seems to die when I use him. I like him well enough as a character, and have actually tried. ontopic: I take it mine are too long to be read by the uber-busy Flyssa. I see how it is. Actually, you are correct ^_^;; Although I briefly scanned it and good work ^_^ And on the pegusus comment. They can dodge and double attack. I like dodging and joining time over defense and whatever else.
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 19, 2006 11:17:34 GMT -6
The only slow Wyvern Lord in 6-8 is Vaida, and Heath starts earlier then Farina, Miledy and Zeiss start earlier then Yuno and Cormag starts earlier then Syrene.
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Post by Flyssa on Apr 19, 2006 11:29:18 GMT -6
Thany and Tate comes earlier than Miledy and Zeiss. Florina and Fiora comes earlier than Heath and Vaida, especially Florina. Vanessa and Tana comes earlier than Cormag.
Yuno and Syrene aren't really useful.
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 19, 2006 11:35:24 GMT -6
But without them you have no triangle attack, and you used that as an argument.
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Post by redd on Apr 19, 2006 11:50:07 GMT -6
I did indeed, they still aren't very useful are they.
ZOMG THEY HAVE TRIANGLE ATTACK, THEY MUST BE SUPER!!!!!shift+1
I don't think so... And I was just pointing out you were complaining about the starting times of the less (Except Farina) exceptional pegusus knights.
Also the ones with worse joining times, are promoted (Except Farina, but she has good growths)...
Anything else?
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 19, 2006 12:06:46 GMT -6
No, you have yet to argue with the fact that there are no slow Wyvern Riders so I take it you admit your defeat. ;D Now I only need to make Matthias cave and I win.
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Post by Flyssa on Apr 20, 2006 9:44:33 GMT -6
No, you have yet to argue with the fact that there are [glow=red,2,300] no[/glow] slow Wyvern Riders so I take it you admit your defeat. ;D Now I only need to make Matthias cave and I win. There are slow Wyvern riders/lords >.> But first off are we debating the general usefulness or what? Anyways, I bring back up the point Matthias made about the Wyvern-based weapons (Wyrmslayer etc) And just to say something, you have yet to argue about the significant advantage of the pegusus knights joining time over the Wyverns. >.> So I take it you admit your defeat. Anyways back on-topic, what are we debating? And over what game? Wyvern lords or riders? Pegusus Knight have nothing going for them except speed ;.;
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 20, 2006 10:38:52 GMT -6
I do not deny the pegasus' superior recruiting time, but how often do you run into a Wyrmslayer/Dragon Axe/Sol Katti/Legendary Weapon anyways? If you attack first the Wyrmslayer will be no problem, Sol Katti isn't found on an enemy nor are any of the Legendary Weapons and you only run into the Dragon Axe once. I admit they are awful LA characters but ingame I wouldn't call it a big disadvantage.
What are we arguing on? overall usefulness, I guess.
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Post by Matthias on Apr 20, 2006 20:00:48 GMT -6
Look, the only thing a Pegasi knight needs to avoid is archer units. they dodge axe users, and ninety percent of the other stuff out there. They also have bubbly, wonderful personalities.
Wyvern riders have to avoid: archer units, any mage unit (period), anti-wyvern weapons, other lance users, and just about anything that actually does damage. I like Heath and Miledy, but the units are horrible. My Peg knights can tank. The wyverns die like little punks. I love the idea, and some of the riders have great personalities, but I'm never going to use them, because they are bad units.
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 21, 2006 0:32:10 GMT -6
I know this isn't Gamefaqs but, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MEANS NOTHING! You seem to forget that Wyvern don't only have dodge but also 2 stats that they have forgotten to add to Pegasi: HP and Def. Your Pegasi can dodge you say, but the RNG isn't reliable. If a lance user hits them they die, if an axeuser hits them they die, if a archer hits them they die, if a sword user with decent Str hits them they die. With wyverns it is different, they may not dodge quite as much but they can survive a blow from a sword or lance user.
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Post by Matthias on Apr 21, 2006 11:07:00 GMT -6
Funny, I never realized that wyverns can take hits. I guess mine are too busy dieing for me to notice. As for not using personal experience, I realize in a large debate that makes a difference. However, I'm pointing out why I, personally, don't use them. Therefore, my personal experience makes a huge difference.
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Post by Alan on Apr 21, 2006 12:56:50 GMT -6
No you are wrong, even if your Heath, Miledy, Vaida, Cormag and Zeiss all never even gain a single stat-up no matter how hard you RNG abuse, that still does not say a single thing about your next play-through. Bad luck isn't a good reason for not using them.
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