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Post by joshua on Apr 30, 2006 11:14:21 GMT -6
I am so pissed that I wasted an angelic robe on him!
lvl 13 Matthew. Hp:29 (+7) Str:4!!! :-: skill:8! spd:20 luck:6 def:7 Res:6
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Post by cookiesnmilk on Apr 30, 2006 13:47:31 GMT -6
Thats what you get for wasting time using matt. He is at the whim of the rng gods, and they are very mean. So Matt usually sucks, unless the gods feel bored and give out a miracle or two. Leagult can fight the gods to an extent, and isn't a waste to use.
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Post by Alan on May 4, 2006 23:25:58 GMT -6
Matthew isn't that bad, but he very RNG-screwable like Eliwood and Erk.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on May 5, 2006 13:17:43 GMT -6
Matthew isn't that bad, but he very RNG-screwable like Eliwood and Erk. Eliwood, isn't as bad as everybody says so. Leagult is so much better than matt. And Erk is the best mage/sage in FE7.
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Post by Matthias on May 5, 2006 18:42:15 GMT -6
I love Matt, he's one of my favorite characters personality wise. However, he does often get screwed by the RNG, and Legault makes a much better assassin. Matt's good only for the first few E/H levels, and then you might as well shelf him...
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Post by Alan on May 6, 2006 1:56:07 GMT -6
I am not saying that theyare bad I am saying that they are screwable. You will likelyto have one stat that they suck in. Matthew isn't bad since his stat don't matter save speed which he beats Legault in. Legault is however a better assassin then him let alone Jaffar.
Erk the best sage? Pent beats him at 20/6, at 20/10 and at 20/20 and has the better supports. Nino off course is several millions times worse then Erk.
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Post by Flyssa on May 6, 2006 4:38:32 GMT -6
I actually found Erk more useful than Pent. His supports are better, he also comes earlier.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on May 6, 2006 9:06:13 GMT -6
I am not saying that theyare bad I am saying that they are screwable. You will likelyto have one stat that they suck in. Matthew isn't bad since his stat don't matter save speed which he beats Legault in. Legault is however a better assassin then him let alone Jaffar. Erk the best sage? Pent beats him at 20/6, at 20/10 and at 20/20 and has the better supports. Nino off course is several millions times worse then Erk. Erk and pent end up around the same. But, erk will max speed. Erk also doesn't have an auto A support, with a crappy charactor, pent can get only up to B. Erk can get A, B. Erk also comes in the very begining of the game. You get him throught the whole game. Pent is there for the last half.
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Post by Alan on May 6, 2006 10:26:50 GMT -6
Erk 20/20
Hp: 46 Mag: 21 Skl: 21 Spd: 25 Def: 13 Res: 22 Lck: 14 Con: 6
Pent 20/20
Hp: 40.0 Mag: 22 Skl: 24 Spd: 23 Def: 15 Res: 21 Lck: 20 Con: 8
This is how they end up, Pent is clearly better. As for Supports Louise isn't bad as long as she stays close Pent to get the bonuses. Rather, their A support criples Erk's support opions: he loses two A supports. Nino sucks because of the amount of experience it takes for her to become up to par, and you're very late in the game at the point at which she joins. Erk's Serra support takes too long. Priscilla has better options than Erk.
Meanwhile, Pent is one of Canas's best support options, and Canas has the valuable Anima affinity. Considering that Pent is the second of Canas's support options to join (After Bartre) and that Canas is pretty much a staple of most teams, Pent has an almost guaranteed support with a good unit. Erk doesn't.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on May 6, 2006 14:26:07 GMT -6
Please tell me how pent is superior.
I find 6 HP, and 2 AS more valuable than 1 attack, 6 hit, 6 critevade and 2 con. Who actually uses heavy anima tomes anyway?
Erk and Serra take to long? This is bad because? Tell me how that is a bad thing. Please. If your going to get supports, your obviously sitting there clicking end turn over and over again. SO what if you do 2 more turns. OH NO! Support time means nothing at all.
You also fail to realize that Loise is the worst archer in the game. Rebbeca and Will can take her down with ease. And Pent is stuck with an A support with her. If she dies, then Pent leaves. YOu have to use a useless charactor just to power up another one.
Canas' supports with Bartre don't give that much, so Pents don't either. And Canas is a mediocre unit anyway. He is overrated because he is the only dark magic user.
Erk comes at the very begining of the game. Pent comes halfway though. Erk has more time to be used. Pent can't help you out in the begining of the game against lundregen, Erk can.
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Post by Calis on May 6, 2006 23:40:19 GMT -6
God, i hate these Erk, Pent, Canas discussion...well at least this one is more Erk and Pent. I find Erk much more useful than Pent. The fact that you get him though out the whole game is a big+. And the A support really comes in handy for Erk, as for Pent you need Loise out on the field to get the bonus and i hate takeing her out, all she really seems to do is fill up a spot for a more useful character, say Erk.
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Post by Alan on May 7, 2006 2:57:17 GMT -6
Erk and Serra take to long? This is bad because? Tell me how that is a bad thing. Please. If your going to get supports, your obviously sitting there clicking end turn over and over again. SO what if you do 2 more turns. OH NO! Support time means nothing at all.
Nothing at all? Ever heard off the Tactics rating? You are probably going to say you don't care about the Tactics rating but that is your own opinion. Anyway, Pent takes 76 turns to get his longest support: Fiora, then he has an A and a B. Erk takes 239(!) turns to get just Serra, that isn't nothing you don't want to wait that long for bad bonuses. And you don't have to use Louise because Pent leaves if she dies, you can like NOT use her after Unfulfilled Heart you know. And Louise isn't a bad character, she is a world of more stabilty then Rebecca at any rate.
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Post by Rath on May 7, 2006 8:32:53 GMT -6
This topic was about my crappy theif not Magic
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Post by Alan on May 7, 2006 9:19:23 GMT -6
Too bad.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on May 7, 2006 10:14:21 GMT -6
Erk and Serra take to long? This is bad because? Tell me how that is a bad thing. Please. If your going to get supports, your obviously sitting there clicking end turn over and over again. SO what if you do 2 more turns. OH NO! Support time means nothing at all.
Nothing at all? Ever heard off the Tactics rating? You are probably going to say you don't care about the Tactics rating but that is your own opinion. Anyway, Pent takes 76 turns to get his longest support: Fiora, then he has an A and a B. Erk takes 239(!) turns to get just Serra, that isn't nothing you don't want to wait that long for bad bonuses. And you don't have to use Louise because Pent leaves if she dies, you can like NOT use her after Unfulfilled Heart you know. And Louise isn't a bad character, she is a world of more stabilty then Rebecca at any rate. If your going to do supports, then you shouldn't worry about tactition ratings. The only supports you should get are like eliwood and hector that show up after like 5 turns. Louise isn't any good for a prepromote. Rebbeca is faster and luckier, so she can dodge alot better. Louise has beter defences, but dodging>little more defence.
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