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Post by Alan on May 11, 2006 5:46:31 GMT -6
I never said anything about sucking, or even about unpromoted chars being bad, I just think Louise>Rebecca, Harken>Raven, Pent>Erk. I don't know about Karel vs. Guy and I have Geitz to rarely to know for sure.
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Post by cleft on May 11, 2006 14:31:44 GMT -6
your saying that base stats>Growths. So thus all units suck, except a prepromote, because their base stats are good. Hawkeye is ten times greater than dan, because he has base stats that are plenty better. Renault is ten times better than lucius, even with his 12 magic base, because 12 is still higher than Lucius' level 3 magic base (whatever it is). Thus your logic ultimatly fails. Mostly because the only prepromote in the begining is marcus, and that is the only unit you'll be using for a long time.
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Post by Alan on May 12, 2006 2:21:08 GMT -6
Things like starting time come into account to you know, and people like Oswin are at a high level too. And people like Hector have such high potential that you can't let go. There is a medium and Rebecca for instance can't cut it.
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Post by cleft on May 12, 2006 13:21:12 GMT -6
Exactly! Prepromtes are not nearly as good as their unpromoted counterparts. They join much later, and their unpromoted counterparts beat them in everything but like Con, and weapon skill. Rebbeca has twice as much play time as louise. Your saying that late starters are better than early. Why? It confuses me. But, oh well. Your a hypocrite anyway. What do I care? And your saying that Hector has potential. Thus he has good growths. But, that means your a hyprocrite. He starts at level 1. AND ISN'T A PREPROMOTE!!! OMJ!!!! You don't trust the RNG, but your trusting it with hector. Why not just pick favorites? Hey! Marcus is ten times awsomer then Kent and Sain, because he has good bases! Thats what your saying. That all prepromotes are better then everything else, because the RNG doesn't affect them. Well, it does. They have subpar growths, that at 20 their stats haven't changed much from before. They are more suseptible to the RNG, then anybody else.
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Post by zephyrwind on May 12, 2006 21:00:17 GMT -6
Hmm... My Matthews have always been blessed... He has been my best theif/assassin throughout all of my times through... He tends to max str for me... I suppose yours was just screwed (as well as mine being blessed) He is a low enough level where you can still give him a chance if you wish... but I'd suggest scraping him and working with Legault at that point...
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2006 1:02:53 GMT -6
zephyrwind, read the rules. You can't post until you make a character. And Cleft, point out where I said that pre-promoted are better than everything else. And I'm not picking favorites, I like Erk and Raven better than Harken and Pent but I know that the latter are better I'm not talking about pre-promoted being better than unpromoted characters I'm talking about high leveled character being better than low characters. There are exceptions like Hector but Rebecca isn't among them by a long shot.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on May 13, 2006 9:32:51 GMT -6
Thats making an RP POST! Is this an rp forum here? no.
Found it, right there. You hypocritied yourself again. Edit, bold doesn't work in quotes because its stupid.
Rebbeca's growths total near what Hector's growths are. And your saying that "REBBECA R TEH SUXXXORZ!!! HECTOR R TEH AWZOME!!! PREPROMOTES R BETTA DAN ALL ODERZ!!!11"
Its just because you have an irrational fear of the RNG.
The whole rebbeca vs louise thing as well. You were taking louise's side, even though Rebbeca won in everything but Defence and Resistance. Which aren't very good stats. And it was only by a few points. Rebbeca has way better supports. Her fire afflinity, gives her amazing bonuses with Dan A and Lowen B. +5 str, +25 hit, +25 crit, +25 avoid. Tell me which louise supports give bonuses like that? There isn't any.
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Post by Alan on May 13, 2006 13:09:21 GMT -6
Before I reply three things, 1: I thought it went for all topics? My bad. 2: stop acting like you know me. 3: Look up the word hypocrite.
Anyway This I never said, I use grammar.
I sided with Louise because some guy on Gamefaqs convinced me she was good, not because of my irrational fear of the RNG.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on May 13, 2006 13:17:33 GMT -6
A hypocrite is a person that says one thing, but believes something else or does something else. Your sayint that all unpromoted units don't compare to their promoted counterparts, and yet you also say that Hector is good. He doesn't have a promoted counterpart, and you also say that starting time counts too. Yet, all the prepromotes come much later than their promoted counterparts. Do I need to find more examples?
Oh, so someguy said that Luise is good, and you believe him? She isn't any good. Rebbeca and Will are plenty better than she is. Louise is a waste of a slot. Besides, snipers arent that great of a unit anyway.
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2006 2:57:34 GMT -6
Okay.
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Post by tal on Jul 16, 2006 8:28:16 GMT -6
I always use Matthew. Hes my favorite character. Whenever I play, hes always really good, almost as good as Jaffar. Maybe im just lucky.
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Post by cookiesnmilk on Jul 17, 2006 19:58:37 GMT -6
lucky
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Post by Rath on Jul 24, 2006 21:33:49 GMT -6
My MAtthew in my new playthrough is lvl 10 with 7 str now
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Post by kidatashi on Aug 9, 2006 16:17:50 GMT -6
mines lvl 13 with 11 str (energy ring)
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Post by kidatashi on Aug 15, 2006 8:50:53 GMT -6
i deleted that file because Lyn was lvl 11 and sisnt get 1 spd up. I was pretty mad
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