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Post by thegeneral on Jun 10, 2007 12:14:04 GMT -6
America is suposedly the "savior of the world." It has been that way since WWI. The War in Iraq is wrong. I completely disagree with it, and with all of Bush's policies. I do, however, support the troops fighting 100%. We have young men wasting their lives in there against uncontrolable, insane barbarians. Does that even matter to the rest of the world?
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Post by Kenshin on Jun 10, 2007 12:17:34 GMT -6
America is suposedly the "savior of the world." It has been that way since WWI. The War in Iraq is wrong. I completely disagree with it, and with all of Bush's policies. I do, however, support the troops fighting 100%. We have young men wasting their lives in there against uncontrolable, insane barbarians. Does that even matter to the rest of the world? No, to them it's "screw the US" but when they need help it's bitch about the US not helping them right away. |
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Post by Matis on Jun 10, 2007 12:18:18 GMT -6
The thing is, both the USA and Europe think too high of themselves. They believe they rule the world, and what's worse, it's not far from being that way.
Let's face it. The USA wanted the oil in Iraq, and England was simply looking for an excuse to suck onto the USA for profit, which is why they joined the war. The USA is full of itself, and England wants to restore itself to it's former glory(controlling half of the world, I mean).
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Post by Kraft on Jun 10, 2007 12:19:17 GMT -6
'uncontrolable, insane barbarians' ... That's a joke right? Tell me that's a joke? I agree, they have a different culture, but who is the barbarian here? Americans who decided to rush in and bomb houses, kill families, destroy lives and conquer land? Over 30 000 people have been killed. Many INNOCENT people, who had nothing to do with the war except for the fact that they live in Iraq. Only 3000 Americans have been killed in a war that is so pointless.
Who do you call Barbarian?
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Post by Kraft on Jun 10, 2007 12:20:41 GMT -6
And why do you think Europeans say 'screw the US?' because you do exactly the same, it's as Matis said. We both think to highly of ourselves. And Kenshin, you are showing exactly what that means.
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Post by Kenshin on Jun 10, 2007 12:24:29 GMT -6
30,000 Innocent killed by the US in a war. Vs how many Saddam used for his own personal gain. He would use people as liveing genee pigs to test his chemical war fair stuff before the US stopped him the first time.
Also WE DIDN'T GO INTO IRAQ TO CONQUER IT. We went in to take Saddam out of power. Sure we did that but here's the reason why we're still there. Unlike Clinten Bush is finnishing what he started. That's a true man there.
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Post by thegeneral on Jun 10, 2007 12:25:34 GMT -6
I'm referring the barbarians to the terrorists in Iraq.
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Post by Matis on Jun 10, 2007 12:27:11 GMT -6
And there's foolishness right there. The US WILL start a world conquest at some point in time, and if things go as Bush is planning them, Iraq will be the first one to fall to the US's will.
Of course, this might seem far fetched and all, but it's what will ultimately happen. Even if only indirectly(and not through war).
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Post by Kraft on Jun 10, 2007 12:28:07 GMT -6
So, 'OMG Saddam killed innocents and we have to stop him!' is an excuse for killing even more? Kenshin, you believe the lies of your government. Facts reveal that there are NO WMD and why exactly Iraq? There a dozens other countries where the USA could've saved the natives and played world police some more; but OH! wait! there's no oil there...
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Post by Kenshin on Jun 10, 2007 12:32:02 GMT -6
So Kraft who do you know that inspected ALL of Iraq to prove there was none? By all I mean ever single square inch above and below the ground. Oh wait I just proved your "facts" that there wasn't any wrong. Also out of them "dozens" how many of them have a grudge against the US because we stopped them from doing what you claim our only reason for going to Iraq. Anyways if we went there for oil then why am I paying almost 3 f**k**g dollars for a gallon of gas in the cheapest place to live in the US? Answer me that.
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Post by Matis on Jun 10, 2007 12:36:15 GMT -6
Because the government is a mean bastard. That's why.
Besides, it's not "having WMD" that needs to be taken into account, but having the machines to do them. A WMD is not something homemade, you know. Huge nuclear facilities are needed, and Iraq doesn't have those. As such, Iraq doesn't have WMDs. Or at least, not in huge quantities.
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Post by Kraft on Jun 10, 2007 12:37:36 GMT -6
You can't prove that there ARE WMD. Sorry, but all other countries except for the USA and perhaps the UK are saying that there are no WMD. SO wooptiedoo, looks like you are wrong too. I know I can't convince you and you can't convince me because you're a patriot and I'm, well, I don't know. Listen, I'm pro-american and all that crap about americans being dumb and stuff is BULL but the war is wrong. War is always wrong and especially when you make the excuses to go to iraq.
Do you pay money for your gas? Oh the noes, listen Kenshin, the oil is still there and companies won't lower their prices, they just want the oil so they can keep on selling it for more and over a longer period. But okay, let's stop this. Neither of us can win this and if you think you can, okay, fine you win. There are WMD in Iraq. Bush is always right and all Frenchmen are cowards.
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Post by Kenshin on Jun 10, 2007 12:39:01 GMT -6
Look how bad we messed up Japan with two Nukes. They were weaker back then. Even haveing one makes alot of difference. Now what if one of them WMD they had even if it's the only one they had was an H-bomb. Ha have fun trying to find a good chunk of the US.
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Post by Kraft on Jun 10, 2007 12:39:58 GMT -6
True.
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Post by Matis on Jun 10, 2007 12:44:09 GMT -6
Maybe so.
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