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Post by Alan on Apr 20, 2006 1:09:42 GMT -6
I think this is a good way to start the topic off, this is a poll as well as debate, you have to defend your point of view, GO!
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Flyssa
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Post by Flyssa on Apr 20, 2006 9:30:18 GMT -6
Iron pwns, I accidently clicked on silver, and we already had this debate a while ago >.> Although I am unceratain of the outcome. And yay! we have a debate board, although most of our debates are rather spontaneous and occur randomly . >.>;;
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Zeiss
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Post by Zeiss on Apr 20, 2006 10:25:01 GMT -6
The Killer vote is mine, it has a bit of everything: more might then Iron, less weight then Steel, costs less Silver, more crit bonus then Slim (I did not include Slim in the vote but you are welcome to defend it's usefulness!)
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Post by cleft on Apr 20, 2006 11:18:58 GMT -6
Slim are useless cept for pegasi. Silver has the might. Iron is only for no con'd people. And silver is light, and powerful. Satisfying the low con people, and the high con people.
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Post by joshua on Apr 20, 2006 12:31:23 GMT -6
It's a tough choice but I have to say killer.Silver are good for strong people because they don't need the crit.Killer is better for weaker People that need the critical because they are weaker.
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Post by Matis on Apr 20, 2006 16:18:03 GMT -6
Killer. As previously stated, it has more power than Iron, less weight than Steel, it costs less Silver, and has an awesome chance of critical hits.
And even though Silver is good too, you gotta love the Critical Hit animations. >_>
Also, as you know, Critical Hits have 3x the power of a normal attack. More than enough to kill almost anyone in one hit(with the exception of say, FE 7 Dragon and such).
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Post by cleft on Apr 20, 2006 18:03:56 GMT -6
Killer. As previously stated, it has more power than Iron, less weight than Steel, it costs less Silver, and has an awesome chance of critical hits. And even though Silver is good too, you gotta love the Critical Hit animations. >_> Also, as you know, Critical Hits have 3x the power of a normal attack. More than enough to kill almost anyone in one hit(with the exception of say, FE 7 Dragon and such). Luna.
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Rath
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Post by Rath on Apr 20, 2006 18:07:54 GMT -6
That is a spell
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Post by Matthias on Apr 20, 2006 20:09:51 GMT -6
Killer all the way. It turns any unit into a OHKO machine. The silver sucks. They make you think it's good, but it's slight increase in power does not measure up to the decrease in stats. My second is steel. Generally, my units carry killer and steel weapons. I think CnM said Luna because it's the killer of magics. It's really a good tome.
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Post by cleft on Apr 20, 2006 20:15:00 GMT -6
that has the ability when critted, to kill the dragon.
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Post by Kenshin on Apr 20, 2006 20:16:57 GMT -6
Killer, it's gotten me out of sticky situation alot of time. Cookies is right.
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Flyssa
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Post by Flyssa on Apr 27, 2006 15:15:51 GMT -6
Killer is overrated, Crit is random.
Anyways most of the people tat utilise it best have low strength. :[ Plus I hate the name of the Killer weapons, save killing edge.
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Post by Matis on Apr 27, 2006 16:50:24 GMT -6
Yes, the names do suck, but atleast it's not the overused (material) Sword/Axe/Bow.(replace material with Iron, Steel, Silver, Gold, Platinum, etc)
Now, Killer weapons give criticals to people like Rebecca, Guy, Lyn(even though she can use the Mani/Sol Katti), Raven, Florina, etc.
Most of those already have a high critical hit rate, and plus the weapon they get about 35+% of critical. That is a critical out of 3 attacks. And it isn't that bad in attack power when compared to the Silver weapons.
Let's say that someone with a 40% of critical hit ratio(using Killer weapon, which is 30 Crit), and 30 of strength(9 from Killing Edge) attacks 10 times. You should get something like this:(against an enemy with 0 defense, to make it easier)
1. 90 2. 90 3. 90 4. 90 5. 30 6. 30 7. 30 8. 30 9. 30 10. 30
That's not in order, and that is if the % is 100% accurate.
Total of damage is 540.
Let's compare to Silver Sword.(34 attack and 10% critical ratio):
1. 102 2. 34 3. 34 4. 34 5. 34 6. 34 7. 34 8. 34 9. 34 10. 34
Once again, if crit ratio is 100% accurate.(and if all hits connect, of course). Total is 408.
On the long run, Killer weapons are better. And if you are lucky like me, even if crit ratio is 40%, you'll get like a 70% of critical hits. >_> I never ever got a critical with a Silver weapon.
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cookiesnmilk
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Post by cookiesnmilk on Apr 27, 2006 18:44:05 GMT -6
Nobody is gonna attack ten times in a row, without boss abusing, and I would think that you wouldn't want a crit to happen then.
Killer weapons are only good for crit boosting classes. That way you can have like 70's and higher crit.
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Post by Matis on Apr 27, 2006 19:32:24 GMT -6
I never said attack ten times in a row. -_-
But say, throughout the game, my Lyn attacked around 200+ times. Out of those 200+, say, 60% of them were Critical Hits.
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